The Honest ClubWPT Poker Review
NAME | ClubWPT |
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WEBSITE | https://www.clubwpt.com/ |
USA Players | From the following states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington DC, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming |
NETWORK | Proprietary |
ONLINE SINCE | 2008 |
BONUS | 14-day free trial |
TRAFFIC | Under 50 simultaneous ring game players, up to 500 simultaneous tournament players |
LICENSED BY | No official license |
OWNER | Club Services, Inc. (World Poker Tour) |
LOCATION | Irvine, California, USA |
GAMES | Texas Hold'em, Omaha |
SOFTWARE | Windows, Mac, iOS, Android |
BANKING | Visa, Mastercard, Discover, Checking Account |
Overall
2.5-
Business Model
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Monthly Fee
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Ease of Cancelling
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Billing Methods
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Software
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Mobile Compatibility
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Player Traffic
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Player Support
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Tournaments
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Promotions
Pros
- No-download software allows you to play poker right away
- Easy billing methods with credit cards or checking account
- Fixed monthly fee limits your risk
- Works on any mobile device
Cons
- High monthly fee of $24.95
- May continue to charge you even if you cancel
- Nonsensical player quality makes it difficult to win consistently
- Software is dull and dated
- No bonuses or promotions
- Extremely low ring game traffic
Table of Contents
ClubWPT Overall
ClubWPT offers players the chance to win real-money prizes from play-money poker games, but it isn’t free.
This online poker site operates on a distinctive model that grants players access into unlimited poker tournaments for the chance to win cash and luxury prizes without having to buy in every time.
However, players are required to pay a monthly subscription fee to be eligible for prizes. This may be especially attractive to players from the US, who may be wary of playing for real money.
Owned and operated by the World Poker Tour, ClubWPT.com is associated with a very reputable brand. As such, you would expect the site to be a great destination for online poker players.
Unfortunately, that isn’t really the case. ClubWPT definitely has plenty of kinks that need to be worked out before the site’s poker model is a success.
How ClubWPT Poker Works
ClubWPT features a unique style of gaming. It’s a free-to-play poker site where you compete in tournaments with play money chips, however you also have to play a membership fee. For $24.95 a month, you can play poker to your heart’s content.
While it’s similar to apps like Global Poker in the respect that you don’t have to use your own money to buy in to tournaments, you do have the chance to win actual cash prizes.
Firstly, you can use points to register for play-money tournaments. As you “cash” in these events, you’ll earn TPs (tournament points), which you can use to enter special event tournaments that offer up prizes worth thousands of dollars as well as entry into official WPT events and luxury prizes.
VIP Free Trial
A 14-day free trial membership for ClubWPT VIP is available, but you have to enter your payment information beforehand. While this is standard for any type of free trial subscription, I was quite wary about entering my card details, specifically because many Club WPT players have noted that they have been charged even when they wanted to cancel.
Reading other poker forums and finding out about other players’ experiences on the site didn’t fill me with much optimism, so I decided to cancel my membership with a few days to do.
Fortunately, I wasn’t charged before my trial was over, but I did cancel a week into it. If you’re thinking of taking advantage of the VIP trial period and want to cancel, make sure you do so a few days before the actual expiration date.
The ClubWPT VIP Program
It’s interesting that players can win real-money prizes worth thousands by paying just under $25 a month. If you wanted to do that at any other real-money poker site, you might end up spending a lot more than $25 on buy-ins. Thus, I can certainly see the appeal of joining the VIP club.
There aren’t many other free-play poker sites out there that operate on this model, so you do get a unique gaming experience when playing at ClubWPT.com. You can try as many times you want to play poker for the chance to win cash prizes and even luxury items like holidays and cruises.
If you’re a beginner, this type of online poker model could really benefit you. Since you’re only spending a set amount of money every month for your VIP membership, you don’t have to worry about depleting your bankroll. You’re not risking your own money on each individual buy-in, and you have the chance to earn prizes.
Reviewing ClubWPT further, there isn’t much else that I can praise this site for. Many other aspects of this online poker site are lacking, so it’s up to you to weigh the pros and cons of becoming a member.
✅ How much does ClubWPT cost?
You can play at ClubWPT for free, but you can't win real-money prizes without a VIP subscription. If you're going month-to-month, VIP costs $24.95 per month.
✅ Is ClubWPT free?
ClubWPT does have a free social poker section, which doesn't cost anything to play. However, in order to win real prizes, you'll need pay for a VIP Poker subscription.
✅ Is ClubWPT legal?
ClubWPT is legal in 36 US states (full list in review) because it isn't technically a gambling site. You pay a flat fee for a montly subscription and then can win prizes, which falls under sweepstakes law rather than gambling law.
✅ Can you win money on ClubWPT?
Yes, you can win real-money prizes at ClubWPT if you're a VIP Poker member, which means you'll have to pay for a monthly subscription.
ClubWPT Software
You can play ClubWPT poker directly from your web browser or by downloading the software to your computer. It’s a small download and doesn’t take very long to install, which is about the only upside to the software.
The design of the ClubWPT software isn’t particularly pleasing to the eye and there really isn’t anything special about the navigation. Everything about the ClubWPT lobby is very plain. There isn’t anything eye-catching or stylish about it, which makes it seem a bit outdated.
When it comes to the actual gameplay of the tournaments, I was fairly impressed. The games run smoothly and you don’t experience any lag.
The controls are intuitive and all of the buttons feel like they are where they should be to ensure that you feel comfortable playing.
Poker Game Selection
At ClubWPT, the only play-money poker variants available are Texas Hold‘em and Omaha. This is standard at play-money poker sites, since Texas Hold’em and Omaha are the most popular poker games by far. You’re not really missing out due to the lack of stud games.
There are separate lobbies for tournaments, Sit & Go’s, and ring games, which are separated by free and VIP sections. If you’re a VIP, you can take part in competitions for the chance to earn your share of prize pools worth up to $1,000 and entry into WPT events.
It’s also important to remember that you can’t take part in any events for real prizes until you’ve completed the sign up process and registered for the 14-day VIP free trial. There are freeroll tournaments available and, even though they don’t have an entry fee, you still have to sign up for the trial.
ClubWPT Bonus
There are no actual bonuses and promotions relating to poker when you’re a member at ClubWPT. When you sign up to the ClubWPT VIP program, you automatically get ScoreBig.com and SaversGuide memberships.
These clubs provide you with discounts at attractions and restaurants, as well as deals on concert and sports tickets.
You can also take part in various weekly tournaments at ClubWPT that have enhanced prize pools. The tournaments are available to all players, depending on the number of points you’ve earned. Buy-ins range from 50 points to 100 points.
I suppose it makes sense for this to be the case. Access to all of the exclusive tournaments and special prizes are included as part of your VIP membership, so there doesn’t seem to be much opportunity for the site to offer up promotions outside of this.
Still, additional incentives would be a big plus. Anyone who’s played at another online poker site will feel like something is missing without them.
ClubWPT Bonus Code
As you sign up for a new ClubWPT account, you’ll see a field to enter a bonus code. Unfortunately, no ClubWPT bonus code exists and there is no way to get any extra bonus. ClubWPT may offer a promo code in the future, but the only offer at ClubWPT right now is the 14-day free trial of VIP.
ClubWPT No Deposit Bonus
ClubWPT is a “free-play” poker site that doesn’t require you to deposit any money, aside from your VIP membership. There isn’t a no-deposit bonus available on the site. Everything is included in your VIP membership cost and you can only start playing once you’ve entered your credit card details.
ClubWPT.com Poker Software
The world of play-money poker continues to expand, with new sites making their way onto the scene every month. As the market gets more and more competitive, it’s important that sites like ClubWPT make an effort to really wow players because, if nothing else, at least players can say that the site looks great.
At ClubWPT, this really isn’t the case. When you’re in a poker tournament, there isn’t anything that sets the aesthetics of ClubWPT apart from any other free-to-play sites.
Like the ClubWPT lobby, the poker games feature a basic design and there isn’t much in the way of customization options. There are only a few avatars to choose from and they don’t look all that great.
ClubWPT on Mobile
One feature that ClubWPT has improved on is its mobile support. In fact, the entire Club WPT software, from the lobby to the tables, is optimized for mobile play. Everyone now plays on the mobile client, as evidenced by the 3-line hamburger navigation menu, even when you’re on a Mac or Windows desktop.
There is no ClubWPT app as there’s nothing you need to download to play on any iOS or Android device. Just visit the ClubWPT.com website from your mobile browser, log in, and you’ll be able to play instantly.
Conclusion on ClubWPT
ClubWPT doesn’t do any one thing particular well. If you want to give play-money poker a go, there are other destinations that offer much better gaming experiences.
If you’d rather play poker for cash prizes, then there are more than a few quality options out there that have minimum deposits for less than the ClubWPT membership fee. Even if you have to play at micro-stakes, the quality of the games will far surpass any on offer at ClubWPT.
The main, and possibly only, draw of ClubWPT is that you can earn cash prizes from tournaments without having to buy in to each event separately. It’s the major selling point for this poker site and I can see why it might not appeal to everyone.
Bethany has been working in online gambling for over 13 years. She got her start in the industry as her first job after graduating from the Professional Writing Program at York University. Having written for many online gaming publications and worked with top casino operators, she has unique insight into the gambling market. Bethany maintains a personal interest in iGaming as she continues to play poker online as a hobby.
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I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TOTHINK HERE ANYMORE. all reviews about pokersites is that theyare rigged. i also dont know how the cards are generated. is there a chosen winner while in lobby before anyone plays. or are cards dealt at random. and what does that mean exactly right? randomly dealt how? ive been playing clubwpt for four months now. and yes lots of times i get bad beats. but i also win bad beats alot. you also play alot more hands than at a real table of nine players. so yes your gonna gt alot more hands than usual. alot more aa’s ak;s. flush’s on the river. when you have AA’s. but honestly whenver i have AA’s on the tables i get F***ed to. so i dont know if its rigged or people have bots or whateever claims there are. i have only made it to 3rd place once. but your also playing against 800 people a game on diamond. in a real tourney with 800 ppl. its gonna cost prob 3k and it you place top 50 whcih i usually do you walk with some big time money. here you dont walk with nothing really if you place high on a 1k game with 800 ppl. 2000 ppl on big cash games on vip. someone said they have to give you a free membership on here. im going to try and see what they are talking about. anything online concerning money is gonna be tricky. ppl will always find a way to cheat. or comapny maybe is cheating themselves wewill never know i guess. unless your on the inside. i will admit the best thing about clubwpt is you pay monthly so no losing 1k at the tables. or $300 or whatever. it did actually teach me alot and gave me confidence to play at the tables. but i do get bummed out alot when i spend 4 hours playing just to win 5 dollars. or tourny points. it really sucks.
Of all the bogus sites I’ve played, this is the worst. Their “drama” is to the extreme. I have now finished one spot out of the final table 3 times since I joined and have every time lost to bogus hands while holding a great hand. Sour grapes? You try it for a month and see what I mean. The message becomes clear after a short time….you are not meant to win here…at least not fairly. And the quality of the average player is poor. Prepare to have your aces cracked by 9-2 off-suit on a regular basis, especially when the game is on the line. Agitating at best!
Andrew,
I was in a tourney, where I was dealt pocket Aces. I went all-in pre-flop, only to be called by another pocket Aces. Flop comes off with 3 spades, turn is a blank, river a 4th Spade. Guess, who held the Ace of Spades? Wasn’t yours truly… Odds of that happening? Like, 1 in millions.
Andrew,
I was in a tourney, and was dealt pocket Aces. Went all-in pre-flop, only to find I was called by another pocket Aces. O,K., bit of a rarity, but I can accept that. Flop comes off with 3 spades, turn is a blank, then river pops a 4th spade. Guess, who held the Ace of Spades? Wasn’t your’s truly. Odds of getting beat by a nut spades flush, A-A, vs. A-A? What, 1 in millions?
Actually it’s about 2.17%. So really one in 46. Nowhere near 1 in a million.
Also, more players call all the way to the river. Even for their whole stack with just bottom pair. If they lose, they go jump on another tournament. When they start every 10 minutes. This is the real reason you see so many bad beats on the river. The math is right, but in a real tournament, they never get to the river.
I agree with Andrew and all the comments about the unusually high frequency of “bad beats” on this site. Of course, people who have never played on the site will discredit these claims out of hand citing “variance” and “randomness”, etc. While bad beats do happen, it is the way they happen on this site. You get some fish to call all-in with pocket 6s to your pocket Qs. You have them right where you want them until they river their two-outer. It certainly happens too frequenctly.
The reason ClubWPT would rig the site is obvious if you doubters would give it a little thought. They want to sell subscriptions and what better way to get fishcakes to open their wallets than making them win more often than they should. They think they are better players than they truly are and are incentivized to sign up and pay.
One other thing, you DO NOT HAVE TO PAY A CENT for Diamond and/or VIP memberships. Because of their membership model, they can circumvent laws that apply to true poker/gambling sites. As a by-product, however, they must provide people with a means of no-cost memberships. Read the Terms of Service (nobody does) and you can see how mailing them a 3×5″ index card requesting a Diamond and/or VIP membership monthly is all you need to do to get them. Kentucky residents can even be reimbursed for postage (I guess they feel bad enough about you being a resident of Kentucky in the first place). No money. Not even a credit card required.
so reading Bethany jones long review, I’ve yet to play think I may sign up tomorrow for my free trial. she said there are no bonus codes to put in, I’ve come across code “BOUNTY” It gives you 2000 tp points enough to enter one of free 1000$ tournaments
Here’s ClubWPT’s MO:
1. If you are not one of the “chosen” players during a tournament, nothing, I mean nothing, will allow you to win. Their f’d up algorithm will eventually get you.
2. If you are not programmed to win, you will be dealt something to entice you to stay in the hand, only to be slayed on the river.
3. If you happen to be one of the “chosen”, you can play BS and it will win.
4. A flush is dealt every other hand. (Unless you are waiting on it and not programmed to win. If that’s the case, you be dealt four cards to the flush on the flop – only to get nothing in the end).
One last thing to let you know it’s rigged: Check out how the written description of your hand (on the bottom right of the screen) appears a split second before the cards are fully revealed. If it’s random, how do they know what you’ll have BEFORE the cards are dealt? The site is complete BS.
Do not sign up for clubwpt. Currently there is no way to cancel membership. No provided phone numbers or email address are responsive or connected. You will be charged monthly and about the only option I see is contacting your bank or credit card company and stopping payments that way. Customer Service doesn’t answer the phone either.
I have played in dozens of live tournaments. The chance of getting anything above trips is almost impossible in live tournaments. On ClubWPT, it happens every third hand. I understand that there are a lot of donkeys on the site. I get beat with 10 5 or worse pockets regularly, and I understand these are free tournaments, so there is no skin in the game with a buy in but …
Also, don’t win very often on ClubWPT. After a string of wins for 3 months in a row more than tripling my monthly fee ($150), which I did not “claim” until the end of the three months, the second I claimed the prizes, I entered a curious dry spell. But maybe the poker gods are pissed at me, who knows.
Third, the casino side is pointless.
Well we know that’s a lie because you do not claim money on clubwpt. It is sent to you up to twice monthly! If you don’t like it, don’t play, but don’t make up stories to fit your argument!
You people are idiots! You really should do something other than play poker, like raise petunias! I am 75 years old. I’ve spent my entire life as a software developer. Before you start bitching about rivers and bad beats you should learn just a little about random theory and seeding number generators! While I’ve never written software for poker I have developed several game clients for Craps, Yahtzee, and even Roulette and I can promise that every lousy player at Craps, Yahtzee and Roulette blame the software! Go back to your petunias!
BTW: I also play tournaments regularly at the casino poker rooms. River and bad beats happen at the same rate there as online!
Grow up cry babies!
Your as real of an ****** as they come pal. I don’t believe a word you say and think your the cry baby that works for wpt poker.
Kramer,
I wholeheartedly, agree. If that clown, spent any time watching hands on WPT’s site, they would recognize the uncanny amount of rigged hands. You have to be blind, and ignorant, not too.
you fool you have no idea what you are saying give the site a try if you dont already play there many examples of UNBELIVABLE brds as an example i saw 3 royal flushes in one turny one against me when i didnt lose all my chips when i was on the puck with A/10 and turned a boat against K/J diamds so not a 1 card flush and it was y
the very first hand which is irrelevant other than i should not of been in to see the next 2 royals both of which were 2 card holdings are you assuming people are honest when it comes to money if so crawl out frim under your rock and do some calculations
I cannot figure out how this site can get away with their rigged and fraudulent software. I also don’t understand WHY they are doing this, but it is obviously true. If you enter a real money tournament on this site, you will either be part of the “chosen” group to win hands, or you will lose. You can try and play super cautiously, following all the rules in the poker book. However in the end, if you are programmed to lose – you WILL get eliminated. You will get junk hands until you finally get a hand that looks good. You will usually get baited into staying in, only to be busted by some miracle card on the river. If you’re part of the losing program, trust me – this will happen. Now, if you’re part of the “chosen” group, you can play crap hands and count on winning. Note too that this doesn’t happen as much in their “points only” games. Things seem to run relatively normal in those types of tournaments. Overall, this site is a complete bunch of bullshit. I encourage you to not waste your time or money, not to mention the detrimental effect it could have on how you play in your live poker games. I will not be continuing my membership.
If you want to improve your play for live games do not use ClubWPT. The cards are not dealt randomly at all. I started to think this a while ago after seeing others comments and playing on the site itself. For example:
Pocket AA’s should win about 85% of the time against any callers but not on ClubWPT. I started tracking hands with AA and an all in call and AA’s have only won about 48% of the time. I was just knocked out of a tournament that i had pocket AA’s and pushed all in, pre-flop and was called by 4-2 off suit. The 4-2 had me covered and the flop came 7-4-10, the turn was a J and the river was, you guessed it!, a 4.
It would be one thing if this happened once in a while but I see this over and over and over again.
The site is basically a scam.
Yep!
I really liked the site until they started trying to withdraw money from my account without permission. Even with a negative balance they will try to withdraw every 48 hours. Then, I tried to call so that I could tell them that I’d be interested at a later date, but NO ONE PICKS UP THE PHONE! If they put the same effort into customer service as they do with withdrawing money, this site would be excellent. FURTHERMORE. I don’t really trust the games being anchored to Google Chrome. Real software for PC would be more secure. Anyone on chrome can use software to peek others cards at the table.
I thought the slogan was “never lose money playing poker… guaranteed.” False advertising.
It’s not false advertising. Are you losing money while PLAYING poker on their site? Hello
A lot mentioned about bad beats but that happens everywhere so no big deal. Bad part is on TV I think is funny is them saying get away from the all-ins and play a game of real poker LOL , all they do on here is go all in , no real game play , just a bingo tournament but that is good sometimes anyway. The thing I hate the most is I signed up right away for the Diamond to play the good games but I didn’t check it out thoroughly before hand and now I realize it is for West Coast players unless you like being up after midnight on the East coast playing. I am not a late night person and tried a few games and was so tired I was basically falling asleep so going to cancel my Diamond membership for sure and not sure yet if I will do the VIP. Another issue I have is if you play 2 games at a time they do not have an hourly set time for breaks so if you are on 2 or more tables you will be losing ante and blinds on at least one table. I give the site a 1.5 rating and say not really a good site
ClubWPT sucks!!! Playing there will only ruin your day! The program is designed to make new members win so, they will continue their membership!!!
yes i agree and i did win more early and have had little success lately but i was going to cash in my modest winnings of 400$ but realized they had forfeited my prizes as i did not send in I D in a timely manner what a joke but for 2$ i can contact an expert to resolve it hahah what a bunch of B S
I took the 14 day free trial and before I’d played in a single tournament there were three charges, (albeit only a penny each) on my credit card. Why? If you don’t already know the answer my explaining it won’t incline to avoid the WPT site like the plague. As for all the other comments, spot on. This is not a gambling website, it is more like playing roulette with half the slots green and you aren’t allowed to bet them. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been playing poker, one week or five decades, let alone how good you may be, you will lose and lose some more on WPT, but never more that $25/month. The time you waste is another matter and you can’t double down on the clock.
Worst site on the internet gives new meaning to bad beat. The designer of this program FAILED MATH. The only thing worse than the site is the idiots who play there and actually believe they are playing poker. Only good thing about sites like this one is they create the FISH I beat live.
I’ve been a VIP member at ClubWPT for over a year now, and play virtually every day for a couple of hours. After reading these comments I am shocked. I naively thought that I was the only one who thought that this site is rigged and not truly random for all of the reasons everyone has already mentioned. I’ve played thousands of hours of live poker – cash & tourneys – and tens of thousands of hours online. Things consistently happen on ClubWPT at a rate that is statistically impossible. Bad river beats is the biggest issue, happening at a rate 2-3 times as often – if not more – than it should. I’m only confounded by why they would knowingly do this? I get the sense the people running this site are just a handful of clueless money-grubbing rubes without the know-how and manpower needed to adequately manage it and make the necessary improvements. I too am annoyed by this “Sitting Out’ issue, which is NOT how poker should work. I’m also annoyed by the amount of time so many people seem to waste, but that’s just me. The big problem though is that they charge people a lot of money every month for a website that isn’t what it claims to be. This is fraud – interstate fraud. That’s a big problem for me and it should be for every member of the site. Therefore, I’ve decided to have my lawyers look more carefully into ClubWPT and explore the possibility of referring them to the Dept. of Justice, as well as filing a class action lawsuit. I encourage all of you to watch this space. If you happen to be an attorney, or someone who actually understands how the algorithms are supposed to work, your input would be greatly appreciated.
I agree with you Frenchy. My experiences have been similar to others writing comments here. I’m a VIP member. In every tournament that I’ve entered for money, I’ve experienced a bad beat before making it to any substantial payment. I mean EVERY money tournament. If I get trips, someone gets a straight; if I get Aces, someone gets a flush. I can almost predict what the flop will be now when I get a certain hand. I am not that unlucky in live games at the casino and the odds of it happening EVERY SINGLE TIME just do not make sense. Now on the other hand, if I play in a points only tournament, everything seems to happen normally and as expected. I’ve paid for a three month membership – I’m sure I won’t get refunded if I cancel, so I’m going to just play this out until it’s over. The site is bs and I’ll be the first to say it.
Can not agree more. Just today I’ve played in 6 tournaments. Some I’ve gone pretty far in, others not so much, but what they all have in common is that in all have in common is that on my last hand when I go all in I lost on an incredibly bad beat. I had trip As, lost on a gut shot straight, I had straight, I lost because the board was 5 hearts, I hit my first flush in 3 nights and I lose to a full house with three 2s on the board. I’m just as fed up with it as everybody else on here is. I can take a bad beat, but when it is every time i go all in without fail thats when I start to think something is wrong. Not to mention the rate at which huge hands hit the board such as AKJ or trips not to mention the ungodly amount of flush draws that hit, yet somehow I only hit a flush with suited cards less than 5% of the time. It’s absolutely ridiculous
i know what you mean here are some of my bad beat
i have AA i raise before flop he calls Flop A 10 7 i go all in he calls Turn 3 River 5 i lose
he has 2 4
i have AK i raise before flop he calls Flop A K 8 i go all in he calls Turn 4 River 4 i lose
he has 7 4
heres the best one
i have K K he raise before flop i call Flop K 3 3 he bets i go all in Turn 3 River 3 i lose
He has A K
i could tell you many more like this is happens every time i play
Reason is if you were playing real money, 2 4 doesn’t call, you never see the river. Incentive to fold, same as the money at risk.
Exactly the river hits everytime. IRL flushes, 4 of a kind, str8s and full houses rarely show but on this site it is EVERY hand. TOTAL RIPOFF. dont waste your time on this garbage site. you wont win. and all you will get is frustrated at all the all in bad beat s
You screwed up that last one Jerry. Need to reraise big there
Ive played on and off at wpt for years.. I read all these comments and noticed no-one speaks to the dealt hand to a player sitting out.. Thats speaks volumes about rigged deals.. It is rigged and that proves it. If a player is sitting out how does that seat get cards dealt?? Simple question maybe it speaks volumes to the RIGGED deal! You play anywhere live and this doesnt happen nor should it..
its not how you play REAL poker. So rigged it is.
I’m thinking…maybe since it’s been, since 2020, as I scrolled thru all of these reviews and the same is true,, 2 years later, I will probably keep money. Mike Sexton had to be aware of these reviews and people’s issues, I don’t see it changing now, since he’s not around to fix any issues. Bots and rigs…not for me. And since there isn’t anyone to bring attention to or get comments from. I don’t see anything getting regulated. Sad.
In tournament play, that is the appropriate rule. The player is still part of the tournament and the must be dealt cards, as well as forfeit blinds. If its a cash game, the rule is different. The player would then not be dealt in.
In a tournament, cards are dealt to players that have a seat and have not shown up. So you’re incorrect. In a cash game, cards are not dealt to an empty seat.
A real joke for a real card player. RENAME IT ( CLUB WPT RIVER OUT )
Exactly I spent the past 30 days reviewing 6046 hands played 5188 hands had river outs 947 in my favor. I then went through my last 10 live games 1398 hands 155 river outs 93 in my favor. My playing style really doesn’t change. If I’m going to the river I’m either ahead or pretty heavily favored with at least 10 outs
I played in one game where a ace was needed in three different hands to win and a ace showed up each time on the river…..what are the odds???????? I’ve seen enough!
If you are an honest player, be ready to be cheated!…
On ClubWPT, I won several tournaments but for many months NOT the ones that offer some prize money. Why not? It seems that I am not part of a select group of players. When it comes to prize money tournaments, it is quite common for ME to lose when two pairs are winning over my flush or one pair is winning over my straight, etc.
Why do I keep playing on ClubWPT considering the questionable ethics? It is a good practice for me as far as controlling my frustration and patience… I am still searching for a good and honest poker site considering my financial constraints…
Good luck on ClubWPT. You will not need luck but miracles if you want to win some prize money…
So my biggest thing on this game is the constant nemesis bad beats. Meaning the same player will keep beating me. Every time I get a quality hand, (Big pocket pair or suited connectors) the “nemesis player,” gets a slightly better hand and/or sometimes they call just because they’re dominating on chips. And then I’m pretty much drawing dead from the start. Even though I’m pre flop raising. Im not happy with wpt and I will not be renewing my membership. Get a better program wpt. With an updated algorithm.
Yes this site WPT is a big online poker playing place to get people winning with their stupid plays they make and they think that they are poker players. I would like to see any of the hope and poke players try to make it in a real money game and play the way they do on WPT. They would all be on Skid Row real fast if they play a real cash poker game the way they play on WPT. It just does not happen in real live poker play the way they rigged the WPT software to give the hands to the dumb players who most of the time poke and hope for a win.
I have been try to get my winnings now for just under a month after five different phone calls they closed my acc. even though the billing cycle was not at the end of the 30 day period, I really could care less about the 90 dollars I won. It’s about doing the right thing for the members who pay for the service. These people are there too rip you off. 47% of the time an ace will hit the flop this is un real poker at it’s best. I play two sessions every day around 4 hours per. They tournaments are X amount like 100 dollar noon game but prize money doesn’t even total that. usually 5 dollar short on all there tournaments. There are bots for sure who know what cards will come on the board run out. Do not waste your money or time at this site. Because if you do win So called Prizes ( I.E. Cash) you will never get payed off.
ive won money and it feels like playing any other site lol i won a 1000 tournament last week cashed 300 nothing weird happened in it i just honestly think people hasve to blsme losing on something
My advise to all you “Pros” leaving comments here about all the bad beats and fake poker…
Put up the $10,000 cash and go play live with all the professionals.
Leave this “fake poker” site for those non professional players who just want some entertainment or maybe want to try to learn how to play this game or improve their game.
AK is still worse than a pair of 2’s. And if there is a pair on the board, your flush can possibly lose the hand.
The bottom line here is, if you don’t have the best hand possible after all 5 cards have been dealt, you MAY lose the hand… period. whether you are professional player or not.
Put all your chips in when there is no hand that can beat you. Otherwise, you may have bad beats. The math of the game is just possibilities, not absolutes.
I was in a 1000 pt tournament that paid the top 20 finishers, so at 18th with 23 players left I hit the extra time button.
I went to look at the other tables. Then I accidentally opened my own table a second time … it was opened up twice. The first with the timer still running and me in the big blind. … I hadn’t acted
The second table showed me with my big blind already gone and me sitting there in the small blind., with the ante out and less chips in my stack.
The above really happened. That combined with the percentage of time you will flop two pair and loose to a flush or a full house shows the site can’t be trusted.
I’m not sure about the site being rigged but I do think that it’s better described as “crap.” The software is at least 20 years old; it’s ugly; it’s clunky; and the performance hangs are utterly ridiculous.
Clearly, this site is garbage and has never been improved to make it interesting and fun.
…but if you don’t mind crappy programming and ugly graphics, then HAVE FUN!
please ban me hahahhaahah other $5000 tourney i raise K/Q suited under gun flop K 6 4 rainbow bb bets out small i push button calls with 6/2 bb calls with 7/8 again i come in third 5 and 2 turn river hahahahahahahh button out and also me again oh my sore head
im sorry i cant help it playing in $5000 tourney very few good hands got rivered by A/2 after hitting top two and runner runner flush no pair on flop won with 88 after calling an allin by J/2 off final hand i raise 10 10 on button two callers flop is J 2 3 rainbow check to me i go allin both call i end up 3rd 4 and 5 turn river and 10/6 clubs and A/8 off both beat me how the bleep does this happen and very hard to keep laughing i knew i was done and the 10/6 gets paid and he also happened to be the guy who made runner runner flush on me i wish someone could do something about this scam
I hear you. I don’t know how many times I have AK and got rivered by 67 offsuit. Last one AK on button. Go all in on a sit-go , player to left calls with A7 offsuit. Flop-Turn Blank, Blank, Blank, Blank … guess the river? What else but a 7. There is no way to play good poker on this site.
Another sit-go , first hand 4 all in. I mean in what real world do 4 people go all in for $1,500.00 buy in on first hand. Way too many worst hand preflops suck out on river. Three/four way all ins with hands like j-7 off, Q-2, 3-8 etc
yes these things happen so often just too many to list the math on these hands is way out there one just happened to me i am bb no raise i flop trip 6s under the gun goes allin K/2 i call off course no draw of any sort for utg WRONG K turn K river haha and we are supposed to believe this?? my month is up and i paid with a prepaid credit card so they couldnt renew my diamond membership snd they gave me another week to pay hahaah i have 240$ in my account not sure if im even gonna try to cashout heard lots of horror stories esp for canadians like me
TOO TRUE!! The math on these hands is SO obvious to ANYONE with half a brain. ( I don’t care HOW MANY hands you see on the net)…the math on the %age of hands seen, hands played and suckouts by 2 %ers is A JOKE!! Just wish the USA would make it legal…send in some regulators to stop these thieves from rigging the algorythims on these fake poker sies like WPT!!
I see there are no other comments other than my continual whining but another 10 days and my month is up so i have been laughing off most of the horrendous beats and adjusting my play to try to avoid them but with group 1 hands you must play and i play them aggressively but dont think i play like a complete nit i am getting to last 10 or 5% of tournaments and won three and 1 4th so why am i whining?? well because as usual i was just in 1st with 100 to go flopped nut str8 winner is 9/2 flush called preflop raise raised A/Q clbs hit top 2 lost to K/Q str8 went on tilt and pushed QQ and lost to 10/J 2 10s on flop to a guy who won with his third miracle in a row makes me think i havent checked if i can but would like to do a hand history and do the math BEWARE go ahead try this site but if you are even a little competent BUCKLE UP
sorry if you are sick of hearing from me but here we go i raise A/q suited in late position lots of callers as usual board is q 10 9 rainbow check to me i push 1 caller utg who smooth called A/k and same for raise put in 90% of their chips and of course J on river next one i flop bottom set turn boat two spds on brd i push and 7/10 of spades call off on draw and hit str8 flush on river hahahah this is becoming so entertaining that i believe i may miss this after month ends
You don’t play much live poker do you? All of these scenarios that you’ve mentioned have happened to me in real life poker. 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly! Besides, AK is overrated, it is nothing but a drawing hand! We all “know” that things like this NEVER happen in “real life”. Ha Ha. These “horror stories” say more about the poor quality of players NOT the randomness of the cards.
hhhahaha here i go again playing out the string here are the scenarios headsup on the button slightly behind in chips A/5 hrts i raise flop 2hrts 3 hrts offsuit 10 long and short of it offsuit 4 on the river it all gets in after betting all the way and other guy has 5/6 off nut str8 next one again headsup i will cut it short i raise preflop hit top pair as does he i have best kicker it all goes in and surprise two inside cards for a miracle str8 for him and it is over no surprise to me these are in back to back tourneys how many times can u lose headsup to miracles???
I do not recommend this for Canadians. I tried the free trial and then bought a 1 month VIP membership. First of all, I had to pay US exchange on the US dollar fee so that’s 25% to 30% extra. I then won one first place tourney and two second place tourneys.
hey then pay your winnings by mail with a check. But, when I asked what their policy was regarding payments to Canadians, this is what they told me:
“Dear Don,
Thank you for contacting us.
All non-US members of our site are subject to a 30% tax withholding of all cash and prizes with a combined value of $200 or greater. You may be eligible to receive some or all of the amount withheld, so I suggest that you speak with a tax professional in your area for more information.
Please feel free to contact us if you have any additional questions.
Sincerely, Alan”
I had won $10 and two $5 prizes – they kept 30% off each prize total. I did not have a combined total of $200 in winnings – only $20.00. Now there’s a gimmick for you! I am supposed to believe WPT is going to pay that to the IRS? NOT!!!!
I play all kinds of different poker sites and NONE of them have had a withholding tax. I immediately cancelled my membership and will never use that site again.
Don
Played there post Black Friday for a few years. Just signed up last month for the Diamond. I cashed out for $300 and now I will be done with it. Let me explain the software. Basically, they use Ultimate Bets old platform. The old download was the old UB platform. Now the online version ran concurrent with the old download back then. Currently you can only use the online version….but it is exactly the same as the original online version. It would seem they still use the old UB program but gussied up so it does not appear to be that UB version. If anyone remembers there was a good bit of controversy with UB involving Russ Hamilton and others accessing a special user to be able to see wat cards were coming before dealt and other players cards. They absconded millions from players. This was called “God Cards”. Also, someone mentioned “to create bigger pots”. I believe tat was true. WPT has nothing to gain since the pots are not raked BUT UB had everything to gain since they raked. That said, yes I believe this program creates large pot set ups…as it was originally intended. When you play ClubWPT you have to keep that in mind. I’ve won and placed well in Tornys in the past that had 2 to 3 thousand players. Many wins and places with players ranging from 200 to 1k. Now more than ever, since they got the Diamond membership…I don’t see many players talking…which brings up the question—Are there Bots? I’m on the fencepost. One thing is for sure, it’s hard to handle set ups even if it favors you at times. Too many runner runner to take out players. I call it “purging mode”. Good luck at the tables my friends. KAIJU BANDIT
I lost $6000 in one sitting. It was phenomenal. I quit poker for a long time. Didn’t know there was a class action lawsuit! Grrrr.
First three hands in tournament : AQ, Flopped two pair 8’s 9’s, pocket queens. Lost all three to far weaker preflop hands. The weakest preflop hands win at an unbelievable high percent. Like 8-3 against AQ, AJ etc. If you played a live game like WPT for real $ you would know someone was dealing from another deck and you would run away as fast as you could!! On a full ring 9 table you are playing against 9 opponents – the other 8 players and the ClubWPT dealer. Come on Clubwpt quit the nonsense and deal a REAL Texas Holdem
well it just happened again last 40 in 10k gualifier raise A/Q off early pos A 5 3 rainbow flop i check i bet i push for about half big stack he shows 10/10 i know im done how can he call 10 on river thats how playing for 1 week at diamond level never gonns happen after this month had a handful of 1 outers against me more than in 10 years too many crazy rivers not just against me and something very interesting in first round of cash tourney wrong hand got paid TWICE first player disappeared immediatey i put out some comments and even the guy that lost the hand said nothing didnt contact support as im done when month runs but this gives evidence to there being bots i think??
Agreed, I have taken so many bad beats on this platform. They flop all kinds of draws so that you cant get away from a hand and then get beat every time to less superior hands that should not even be in the pot when i pre flop raise., I have flopped sets and striates only to be outdrawn on the turn and river more times than not. To get a solid pocket pair AA, KK, QQ through to the river is more of a 20% odd then the 80% it should be. Very disappointing poker platform.
well something new i was unable to register in a tourny as it kept saying i was a basic member i am ashamed to say i am a diamond i contacted support on computer and filled them in it was prompt and then they directed me to a site where i was required to pay 5$ b4 they would help me hahahahahah r you fing kidding me what a joke but a
the 5$ was supposed to be refundable!!!!! what is the point this may be as big a scam as any on the net
I just canceled my subscription because I experienced all the bogus events described by others. The cards are definitely random-dealt. I also think that some of the players must have the software & know what the board will be. I saw far too many outrageous plays win for it to be legit. My advice: STAY AWAY!
Agreed
My thoughts…Yes, there are a lot of suck outs and bad beats. This has been a complaint on most poker sites for a few years. You cannot bluff or force one to fold , if they are too ignorant to know they can be beat. I have encountered the same issue at live games and online. The difference being , those at the live games cannot carry enough money to keep buying in. These unlimited play sites have an unlimited supply of idiots. In live action , you welcome the same idiots just not a table full of them. Stay true to the odds and mix it up a bit, you can prevail.
ALLTrue…..but you fail to mention that the software is rigged. TOO many ‘Action Flops’…if 5 players see a flop….they ALL seem to get a piece of it…..(pairs,str8 draws. flush draws. a set, etc)….WAY too often to be random. This is done to induce betting and eliminate as many players from the Tourney as soon as possible, so they will immediatly enter another tourney. There are various reasons for WPT wanting to do this. They don’t really care WHO wins…..just that someone does as soon as possible. If a person is playing in low level VIP games for instance….a 50 dollar prize game say….they just assume people playing there shove and chase so often because they are just donks. However…no matter if you get in the bigger Tourneys offered under the Diamond Sub. it is exactly the same shit. Rigged for the idiot donks to suck out and every donk calling all in bets after they first limped in with a 10$ blind hand. Yes…that WOULD be great in a REAL poker game….IF the software weren’t rigged. They do this because they know it is almost even money that one of their weakass donk hands has a chance to win because of the phony software. Not to even MENTION how Jeremy Clemons pays his friends off with free Tournament Points in private Tourneys. T.P.’S are House Money…and WPT employees pass them out to their friends like candy. Site is totally rigged!! ‘OCEANDRAGON’
Anyone still on Clubwpt is a Donk, let them go.
I agree and experienced 95% of everything noted in this thread, thank you!
Globalpoker seems like a great alternate that I found on my own, Any site but them!
Stay Safe.
Must say that my last THREE AA hands were met with at least 2 drawing hands. This is after a raise and my re-raise, or my raise and a all-in…….. I let you guesse the out come.
I have won money and they did pay…… But the ACTION flop is non stop LOL
Happened to me again today, 09/19/2020. Clubwpt let me win first place for $10. Then in the real tournament I get crushed on the river twice out of three times by bad beats. Don’t know if it’s players making crazy unlikely to hit all in calls or rigged software. For sure, there are a lot of players willing to call all in bets to chase the river on club wpt.
This site it totally garbage. I’ve only one prize money one time I finished 6th and won $45. And I had pocket AA and the guy had 89 suited and hit a gut shot straight on the river to knock me out. There’s been plenty of times where I fold great hands just because I know I’m going to lose towards the end. There are definitely bots on the sure as no one responds to you towards the end of a tournament. It’s pretty sad that a company has to do this to make $. I will never sign up for club Wpt again. Someone needs to look into this and refund our money back! Point stated
I have been studying the site for some time and I believe they use algorithms to take a player out of any particular hand, this is not easy to understand but I have spoken to several very smart computer guys and they tell me it can be done. I have played on line poker since 2005 and every being in my fiber senses this site stinks to high hell! Why are they doing it? They can not control what others will or wont do in a hand so how do they do it? I am convinced some players who have had recent wins are then programmed in not to win any key hands for a period of time, this way they can move the wins around and keep many more people happy especially the idiots that can not play poker correctly. So a algorithm will instruct the program what card to release on the river. They are not regulated and they are considered a entertainment site so they may be able to do this legally? but they are luring in paying customers with the promise of winning cash and or prizes, if they are manipulating the deal in any way at any time that would in my opinion constitute fraud. The site will refuses to acknowledge there dealing program is 100% random at all times? I have asked them that over 10 times. So be the judge for yourself it will cost 27.95 a month to play on the site. I am intending to contact the attorney general and lodge a complaint.
I have no solid evidence, but believe your assessment to be true. I played on the site for 3 years, using an Apple MacBook Pro, from 6/17 through 6/20, and did win $50-200 more every year than I paid, but every time I won a money prize, I went through a “drought” where my superior made hands (full houses, flushes) were ALWAYS beaten on the river by a suck-out for the next 4-6 weeks. The last 6 months the site would fold my hands without letting me bet, or showing me what hands won, constant interruptions and delays. Became too much of a pain, so I dropped the subscription.
Did u file a complaint? Did u get any info regarding the complaint, if so, what was the response. I’m interested in knowing.
Wow I just read through all the comments and I can totally relate to them, I have logged massive hours on the site and I do play on the vip site, They actually have this new deal now that cost 149 a month there diamond membership. No thanks I just pay my 27.95 a month oh ya they raised it up in case you did not know. Yes there is something going on in there and I think part of it is done in order to speed the turneys up. For example there 5k trny on sunday will have approx 2400 or so players and if you were to go the distance it most likely would be over in 4 maybe 5 hrs max. I remember on pokerstars I was in a trny 1403 players and I won the trny but that took just over 8 hrs, the reason why it was real poker not rigged with massive action hands. So I have email club wpt over 10 times and as them this question “Is your dealing program 100% random at all times”? and they refuse to acknowledge that? Instead I get the same BS email template reply every time. I only play on the site as I will no longer play on any off shore poker site. Ok so here is the good I have cashed over time for about 2 hundred or so total and I have always received my check in the mail although it can take over 30 or more days to receive. They recently made some changes to there site including late registration on most turneys and some other changes that I did like but they still need many more changes. I am somewhat of a turney addict and if you are a vip member there is 24/7 turneys although many of those are free roll points turneys where you can win TP,,s and you must get to the final table in order to win I have had many 1st place finishes in those, But be warned there are herds and herds of spastic donks that play in those! I do get some measure of entertainment and laughter by watching these donks play, maybe I am twisted? So Until on line poker is legal in the States and I can play on a regulated site for now this is where I play.
This is a quick follow up to the comment I made today. As far as how they manipulate the dealing program I do not know but I have been told by computer guys it can be done. How and why they do it is hard to say. I was in there sunday 5k trny today and the chip leader on my table was winning like every big hand he was in. One hand player had AA he had 77 and hits a 7 on the flop. He took me out as well, here is the short version of what happened, I had AQ suited He had JQ just us in hand. Flop comes out with a Q I check he bets I shove all in and of course the turn is a J, that was his only out he had no strait or flush draws. This site rakes in a small fortune with there monthly fee they charge and yes I thing they should be investigated by the AG.
Hey dude….I’m loling because I was also in same Tourney and I know exactly what you are talking about…. ABOUT the same thing happened to me in Yesterdays 2k Tourney. The things Eric is saying is exactamento on point. The ‘action flops’ are WAY to often AND co-ordinated to be ‘random’. NOTHING random about their RANDOM CARD GENERATOR….lol….the good news is,,,between the fake rng and the idiotic army of Donks and just plain beginners on the site…you CAN still win cash$MONEY…lol. In spite of a BUNCH of ridiculous rvr suckouts…I still managed an 8th place finish and 50 bucks. ( Plus the fun of laughing my ass off at the gang of allin shovers with nada! So…just know what yer gettin into and be prepared to do a lot of yelling at the screen. lol…GL BRAHS
I just signed up for the trial membership two days ago I placed in a couple tournaments that were for tournament points the first big cash tournament for $1000 I registered with five minutes before it began when it began it came off of my screen I said registration was closed and I was not registered for a tournament I called to cancel and ask for a cancellation confirmation number which she informed me they do not give out no cancellation confirmation number email or text message no proof that you cancel your messageAgree with the fact that it is a complete scam
I agree with everyone who is saying the software is rigged. There are way too many bad deals, bad beats, and an astronomical number of river wins. Odds mean nothing on this site. It should be called ClubWRT. (Club World River Tour).
I’ve cashed for small denomination @ ClubWPT, but never big money. It seemed to me like it might be rigged…. but who knows. Almost everytime I went up with AA or KK or a monster hand, it would get beat if my opponent had more chips than I did. If I had the chip lead, my big hands would hold up. It just started to seem fishy after awhile. Not every time, but a good percentage, so difficult to track. Didn’t seem normal, and if poker, if it doesn’t seem normal, it’s probably not. But, I was able to cash out successfully many times. Mixed feelings, but I liked the possibility of winning a trip to the Aria 500 or other live tournaments Now that I can’t win a live trip due to corona virus, I’m out.
ClubWPT is the worst poker site I have ever played on. Players are so sloooow not enough games.
Plus even if you cancel before 14 day trial they take at least one months payment from you, stay away
I’ve only been playing a few weeks and haven’t seen the rigged action being described. I’ve only played a handful of ring games and tourneys and have done well. Today I played in a $5000 Matt Savage tourney (2000 Tournament Points to enter) with about 2400 players in it. Towards the end I was #8 in chips with 52 players left, and then all of a sudden the tourney is over and I get a screen that says I finished 8th and won 5000 TP + $100 cash. I had been playing for about 3.5 hours. All I can think is they ended the tourney when they got down to 50 players, but to me that is very strange to end a tourney early. Plus, if the cash portion was $5K it seems I would have received more for 8th (and technically I was just in 8th place in chips when they ended the tourney). The interface is very basic and that was surprising considering it is WPT. I played on Full Tilt and Poker Stars (up until Black Friday) and their interfaces were much nicer. Plus, if I want to multi-table it seems I have to use a drop-down to switch between tables which is terrible.
I am towards the end of my free trial and will cancel. I see the same issues as everyone else with bad beats with 90% or more to win a hand . Not real poker and can hinder your real game. I decided to track my all-in hands. I win at a 36% rate when all in. 25% if I am behind in the hand and 40% If I am ahead, like my AK vs KQ or AA vs 73 and the board turns a 7 and rivers a 7. I could feel the deception and had to record these hands to see the math and the truth.
Actually, many of the tournaments clearly state that 20, 40, or 50 players will share in the tournament’s guaranteed Prize amount. There are others that pay by placement, so make sure you know what the rules are for each event. My beef with the site (and for 3 straight years I won more than the cost to subscribe) is that for the last 6 months, the server would get screwy, and either not show cards, not put up betting option buttons, or not show winning hands until the next hand was being dealt. Hard enough to win without that handicap being added, so I did not renew this year.
I’ve been playing on clubwpt for a week or two.. I was ranked 99.7% and 99.5% on OPR in years before black friday on Pstars. I’m not noticing anything difficult in going deep in these tournaments. Hands playing out normal in my opinion. Wish prizes were bigger but it’s for the fun I suppose.
This is crazy! I used the website for three days, wanted nothing to do with it and called to cancel but after being billed twice for almost $40.00 cdn I finally took action.
I even have been admitted to that I called three times and they have located my calls but now they have to hear the words….cancel!!!
I can understand if I used the website past the 14 days but give the consumer the benefit of the doubt here and use the data to provide me my refund. I only used the websitefor four days when I realized the entire website is a complete scam. COMPLETE SCAM.
Refund he money immediately to my credit card or I will leave a review everyday.
Thank you!
I appreciate the feedback, Brad. It sounds like you aren’t alone with your ClubWPT experience.
Unfortunately, I have nothing to do with ClubWPT. I don’t work for them and have no affiliation with them. My team and I just review these sites for players like yourselves. It sounds like things have gotten pretty ugly there.
I’m glad you made your way here, though, and hope you finally get your money back from ClubWPT.
My question is this: Does this site have poker bots? I see the same strategy.. They sit out in the room and one joins before the 20 minute rule is up. I will see the same players sit out, then jump in and win a big hand, going all in. The sitting out goes back and forth. They never chat in the room when you ask them a question or say nh. Please tell me what poker site is worth joining where it is fair and there are no bots.
WPT is without a doubt the biggest scam of a poker site on the internet. The bad beats are ridiculous. Their entire strategy is NOT to provide a fair game, but to entice you to BUY chips just so that can bad beat you into losing all those so you will BUY more chips. Don’t fall for this scam. I though Mike Sexton had more character than this to put his endorsement on such a shady and unscrupulous product. Apparently not. What a sham site, do not waste your time on WPT.
This is SO TRUE I get Pocket pairs that NEVER win or even come close. This site has a system in place that don’t allow you to win any good hands. once you go all in someone gets a river card to take you out. They want to make you lose so you buy more chips. The point system is a BIG JOKE. STAY AWAY FROM THIS SCAM SITE.
I think the late night tournaments might have a lot of bots playing. I was at two tables and asked if anyone was human, or if anyone thought anyone else there was a bot — two questions that you’d think would get at least some sort of answer. But it was complete silence both tables. I’ve played on this site for a year, and the flops do seem rigged for ‘action’ with at least two or three players hitting each hard enough to go all the way to the river for what is usually a bad beat turn of events.
I signed up yesterday because wpt stated that Michigan was able to play on wpt and can become a VIP member. I was able to sign up and give my bank account numbers. I was accepted to play and become a VIP member.!!! Yahoo, I was pretty excited about being able to play for real money again… I was playing a ring game with my free coins that I received…hahaha, I’m glad that I got a free trial because when the odds of winning a hand with the nuts on turn and my opponent has a 8-3 off suit calls with absolutely no pair nor straight or flush draw wins with a 3 on the river to win the pot… appalling. I’m thinking, ok… Try this again, a couple hands later I’m in a pot with a flush and I lose to 4 of a kind on River….once again.!!! I haven’t even played the VIP room yet. I go to register for a sit and go tournament as a VIP member, which I am because they now have access to my bank account and because they welcomed me as a VIP member…. Anyways, I click on register and a pop up says I have no access to play this tournament…. Day two is here and I am still not allowed to play as a VIP member… Answers to me would be greatly appreciated as to why I am a VIP member but am not allowed to play as a VIP member…answers please…
How about being one of the final two players in a tournament with a 3/1 chip lead? I go all in with AQ suited, the guy in second calls with 4/2 off and the flop comes 442. Bad beat?
Pure garbage. I’ve been playing poker live for 20 years. 90% favorites go down 75% of the time. The way the cards come and run out is not real. Thing is it is a good concept. I just don’t get why they cant give an honest deck. It really doesn’t make sense. If it had an honest deck it would be pretty good. Ridiculous!
Thanks for the feedback, Will. Appreciate it.
I actually think THIS site is a fraud….none of the so-called ‘posts’ are honest…I put was up few minutes ago telling the TRUTH about a few things @ WPT……nothing BAD,,,nothing particularlly good…just a no-nonsense review from a player (myself) about the site….they siad it was ‘under review)..then said I had posted the comment before…which was a lie.Then they posted it for about 5 minutes….and now it is gone!! They seem to only want smear comments about WPT….NOT honest remarks. I’m guessing this site is used by the competition to smear an opponent in the on-line poker business. If not…tell me WHY you removed my first post? Once again you say I already posted this comment. UNTRUE! You are liars and you know it. lmao
Hi there, Ed.
Nothing weird going on here and nothing was removed that you submitted. I just discovered your comments a few minutes ago and approved them. I also saw about 4 or 5 copies of your same comment, so the system was accurately telling you that you had posted the same comment before. Maybe it wasn’t intentional, but your exact comments were resubmitted many times.
Also, yes, every comment goes under review before being posted. I can’t imagine allowing the vitriol that exists on the internet today to just be posted without moderation.
Its pretty simple Will…IF they used an honest deck…ie..Random Card Generator…and only the ‘good’ poker players won…say 90% of the time….How many ‘bad’ players..who would NEVER win anything…come back and re-new their Scripts? Not a lot…so…to keep the donks coming back for more they need to allow a certain %age of players, without a clue, to win. Thus you have the “Terrible play being rewarded” syndrome…as I call it…on here, at a much higher rate than if you used a legit shuffler. Have you ever noticed that in REAL poker…such as ones with live dealers….the repeat players who are some of the best in the world…show up over and over again…we all know who some of them are. You wont see that on WPT….the good players are prevented from ‘taking over the show’ so to speak. You get what I’m saying? GL @ the Tables Brah.
Wow! How familiar all of this sounds! My husband and I were both ClubWPT members for quite a while (over a year). Living in Colorado, this was the only online poker to be played with at least a chance of winning money. After moving to Vegas and having other options now, we also got tired of seeing the most mathematically improbable hand winning time and time again and decided to cash out our prizes and cancel our accounts.
The first time I redeemed prizes was in December 2019 and everything went smooth and prize was received very quickly. Now, it has been well over a month since we “redeemed” our prizes and we are still waiting to see a dime. I emailed on 2/10 asking wth and was told by first agent that they were “processed” on 2/3. A week later, I ask wth again, now this agent says they were “processed” on 2/11 (hmmmm….coincidentally the day AFTER I inquire about their status). They like using the word “processed”, because, apparently they have an infinite amount of time to actually “process” your claim and then once they get around to “processing” it, THEN the clock starts ticking and they have 30 BUSINESS DAYS to get that payment to you.
That same day (2/18), my husband and I both sent the cancellation email to WPT to cancel the accounts. They state that your cancellation will be “processed” within 24 hours. Each was sent during different times that day from our individual emails. We both received the “acknowledgement” email stating they received our email and were working on it that same day. Yet, today (2/21), THREE DAYS LATER, I had to call the cancel phone number to process the cancellation before my billing on the 23rd.
What do you think the possibility is that two separate players, with two separate accounts and emails BOTH had their cancellation AND their payouts fall through the cracks. Mike Sexton and Vince Van Patton should be ashamed of themselves putting their name on such a shady product.
Thanks for sharing that, Cheri. Sounds like a complete waste of time. I hope you ended up successfully canceling and receiving your prizes ever?
Yeah, I’m on day 3 of my trial and have seen AA 6 times and have lost all 6 hands in 3 and 4 bet preflop situations vs J9 J8 type hands…..I have also see other players with AA lose nearly every time also. I know small sample size but it is still alarming.
glad to see im not alone. when i first signed up i was playing many tourneys. the first 8 times i had AA i lost , most to junk hands twice to lower pairs that hit a set.
I love watching the WPT network. They advertise the ClubWPT relentlessly. I have never seen a 4 of a kind on the tournament telecasts. Thanks for the avoidance advice!
Raising rates is bs as this site dont give you any value as it is they have no loyalty to players im gonna cancel after years on here.
This site WPC IS THE BIGGEST SCAM ON THE INTERNET. I SIGNED ON AS GUEST AND PURCHASED CHIPS. STARTED WINNING AND I NOTICED THAT WHEN I logged out and back in I was being charged 200k every time. Contacted customer service and they said someone must havE access to my account. RIGHT. NO ONE HAD ACCESS EXCEPT FOR WPC. They wiped me out with there SCAM .
BEWARE DONT FALL INTO THERE SCAM…….
WAG
I play a lot of live WSOP Circuit Event Tournaments, and for the past five years have played the $10,000 Main Event 4 times, cashing in 2015. I have one Circuit WSOP Ring with a 2nd place finish this past year, barely missing my 2nd Ring. I have 13 cashes with around $63k in WSOP winnings, and about equal if not a little better in other Casino Tournament winnings. I am not burning the Poker World up by any means, but I have a lot of real world experiences with real world successes and defeats. Club WPT is a bogus rigged game. I do not believe it is rigged for any particular one person, but rather rigged to provide bad beats and bogus action.. The odds are stacked against you doing well at an incredible rate. The other issue I personally have had is that while they advertise you can win monetary prizes, and I have won a whopping $40.00, trying to claim that money has proven fruitless. I have cancelled my membership, and have lodged several complaints with WPT and the Virginia State’s Attorney General Office and FCC pursuant to fraud and any other charges they may want to investigate, but I have no doubt that for $40 bucks that will go nowhere. My advice, stay away from Club WPT, it is pure BS and a waste of time.
Hi William, thanks for taking the time to share. It was fun looking up your stats, which are impressive. Here’s to your continued success and enjoying those grandchildren.
Over 3 years playing here, I always received money won, and won more than my annual subscription price. For what it’s worth, All payments were always authorized at the END of the month, and received by the 15th. That said, I had too many server problems with the site to continue playing with the handicap of having 4 of a kind, full boats, and even a straight flush lose because the server folded me with NO betting buttons being shown after the river was dealt.
I decided to give ClubWPT a try. Given the WPT name I believed it would be a reputable gaming experience. Wow! I was disappointed. After a few tournaments, I felt the odds of some of the beats were astronomically high. Since I was in my trial period, I kept playing. I saw 4 of Kind 3 times. In all my live play, I’ve only seen it once. Flushes were as common as pocket pair. In fact if one player had AA, others would have KK, QQ and you’d witness an all-in show down with one of the player getting their needed card on the river. I finally Googled ‘ClubWPT’ and ‘Bad Beats’ to see if others noticed the unusual odds. ClubWPT is rigged to sensationalize the game just like they do on TV where they only air the exciting hands and cut the low stakes boring ones. You know the common hands. I can’t prove it but if they rig the game this way, what prevents them from having bots play as well. I cancelled during my trial. WARNING: You cannot cancel within the platform. When you click the Cancel Link, you are directed to call or email your request for cancellation. Any service that does this is not trust worthy. Stay away from ClubWPT.
Thanks for the feedback, Steve. I can’t stand it when companies force you to call or email in to cancel a service, either. I agree that it’s almost always a bad sign.
Not only that they do not pay the prizes u win consistently they would pay one month skip a couple than pay the next month than nothing for months I finally canceled my subscription and to this day they havnt even paid my last prize claim a month and a half ago pathtic numerous emails nothing
The hands are designed to induce action and just make the tournaments demolition derbys… 2 pair, sets, flushes, boats basically every hand… after playing long enough you start adjusting your play to try to beat the software, folding when you would call irl and calling when you would fold, because “it always comes”… definitely a detriment to your game if you play elsewhere… take it for what it is, a poker video game where you can win a few bucks
that is so true i have seen so much that i folded 10/10 in the blind (after sig raise and two calls ) as i felt this was the hand and i was right 2 A/Qs and 99 flop J 10 rag river K i would have been out A/Q pushed on flop on the reverse i went on too win tourn money but i mostly played as to the notes i had on people and picked my spots which is only common sense but i flded a number of playable hands that i normally play such as A suited and K/L suited to avoid drawing
Yeah the software is the worst I have ever played on. Being a solid player wont help you. It is pure luck determined by the game. I have never seen so many 4 of a kinds in my life. At least one per tournament. Dont waste your money. I’m pretty sure computers play too. Nobody can be as lucky as some of these player. The odds aren’t even close to real. And I have played a lot of real games.
Thanks for the comment, Patrick. I appreciate it!
ClubWPT is the worst!!! So rigged for fish and donks to win. Don’t play here!!
AGREED